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The first time DeLuna talked about "standing there when somebody else did what they did, you know. But I won't name no names. I already named names, and the court—and the case is due to appear, and I won't name names."315

The next time, he said more. "[T]hey're not trying to find this person," he said.316 "They say they've tried but they have not tried, no."317

"When I had my turn in court," he revealed for the first time, "I offered to take a lie-detector test or any kind of test the district attorney wanted. Mr. Steve Schiwetz, the district attorney . . . told me he did not want me to take a lie-detector test."318

Boudrie's report then cut to a shot of former prosecutor Steven Schiwetz, on camera in a coat and tie.

"But as far as the state was concerned," Boudrie pointed out in a voiceover, "this particular Carlos Hernandez didn't exist."319

In Boudrie's interview with Schiwetz that followed, the former prosecutor disputed DeLuna's claim that he didn't look for Hernandez. We "tried," he said, but "[i]t was all dead ends." Instead, Schiwetz continued, he was "able to disprove conclusively" that the Perales sisters "could have been with him that night" as DeLuna had claimed.320

Schiwetz, however, did not dispute that he'd turned down DeLuna's offer to take a lie detector test.321

Boudrie gave DeLuna the last word. "Maybe one day the truth will come out," the young man, dressed in a white prison uniform, said.322 "I'm hoping it will. If I end up getting executed for this, I don't think it's right . . . ."323

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:02:09.

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:02:32–00:02:59:

Close-up of DeLuna behind chain link [glass partition].

CARLOS DELUNA: [inaudible] they're not trying to find this person. They say they've tried but they have not tried, no. When I had my turn in court, I offered to take a lie-detector test or any kind of test the district attorney wanted. Mr. Steve Schiwetz, the district attorney, refused the lie-detector test. He told me, he did not want me to take a lie-detector test.

KAREN BOUDRIE: So you took no tests whatsoever?

No tests whatsoever. . . . I told my lawyers, my lawyers talked to the district attorney's office, and they refused the test.

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:02:32.

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:02:32.

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:02:59–00:03:31:

Close-up of a [Steven Schiwetz] in a suit and tie. He is speaking but we do not hear him.

KAREN BOUDRIE: But as far as the state was concerned, this particular Carlos Hernandez didn't exist.

STEVEN SCHIWETZ: Tried to get some information out of him about where does the man live, has he ever worked anywhere. It was all dead ends. . . . The thing that disproved that story was the fact that he claimed . . . that he and Carlos Hernandez were with two women, and we found them. And we were able to disprove conclusively that they could have been with him that night. . . .

KAREN BOUDRIE: And the jury didn't seem to believe the story either. They convicted DeLuna, and after an emotional presentation during the punishment phase, gave him the death penalty.

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:03:15.

See Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:03:04–00:03:54.

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:04:33–00:04:48 ("DeLuna, behind chain link window. DELUNA: 'Maybe one day the truth will come out, and I'm hoping it will. If I end up getting executed for this, I don't think it's right, you know?' KAREN BOUDRIE: 'Karen Boudrie, News Watch 10.'").

Transcribed VHS Tape of NewsWatch 10 Reports by Karen Boudrie, TV News Reporter (1984–85) at 00:04:33–00:04:48.

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