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Los Tocayos Carlos
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Carlos’s regular habits extended to his clothes and grooming, which, most agreed, were not the source of his charisma. “Carlos used to dress real ugly,” a former girlfriend told the private investigators years later. “He looked more like a hobo.” “He looked homeless.”139 When asked to describe what Carlos always wore, she said, “[a] white t-shirt. Jeans. His beer. . . . And in cold weather he would wear a flannel jacket,” with “squares, plaid,” and tennis shoes. “He was real sloppy.”140

Others elaborated, describing Carlos’s summer uniform as a white t-shirt or muscle shirt with blue jeans. In winter, it was a white or off-white sweatshirt or thermal shirt and sometimes a “blue- or red-checked flannel shirt” or “coat-shirt.”141 Carlos was never one for button-up shirts. Asked where Carlos bought his clothes, whether he went to the J.C. Penney’s at the mall, another former girlfriend laughed. The thought of Carlos Hernandez in a department store didn’t compute.142

The same girlfriend described Hernandez’s facial hair: “He never did sport a full beard, I don’t remember that, but the mustache, yes . . . always.”143 He kept his thick wavy hair medium-length.

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Figure 16. Photographs of Carlos Hernandez: (Top left) After an April 1985 arrest for public intoxication. (Top right) After a July 1986 arrest for murder. (Middle left and right) After an April 1989 arrest for aggravated assault. (Bottom left) After a March 1994 arrest for heroin distribution. (Bottom center) With brother Javier, early 1990s. (Bottom right) In his “winter uniform”—flannel checked over-shirt, grey undershirt and blue jeans—with an unidentified woman, late 1980s.

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Transcribed Videotape Interview with Dina Ybañez, Neighbor of Carlos Hernandez (Dec. 7, 2004) at 03:46:13–03:48:25 (“Carlos used to dress real ugly. He looked more like a hobo.”);

see Peso Chavez’s Notes on Interview with Dina Ybañez, Neighbor of Carlos Hernandez (June 14–15, 2004) at 2 (“Hernandez’s clothes: He always wore a t-shirt and jeans. Size 8 1/2 shoes—tennis shoes from payless. He was sloppy, ugly. His hair was always like that. He looked homeless. Would wear a flannel shirt when it got cold—squares, plaid”).

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Dina Ybañez #013, Neighbor of Carlos Hernandez (Dec. 7, 2004) at 03:48:25 (“[Hernandez would wear a white] t-shirt. Jeans. His beer. And in cold weather he would wear a flannel jacket and tennies. He was real sloppy. He looked more like a hobo.”);

see Peso Chavez’s Notes on Interview with Dina Ybañez, Neighbor of Carlos Hernandez (June 14–15, 2004) at 2 (“Hernandez’s clothes: He always wore a t-shirt and jeans. Size 8 1/2 shoes—tennis shoes from [P]ayless. He was sloppy, ugly. His hair was always like that. He looked homeless. Would wear a flannel shirt when it got cold—squares, plaid.”).

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Marcella Brown, Friend of Carlos Hernandez, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Feb. 24, 2005) at 13:26:50 (“Carlos Hernandez, the way he dressed for the winter time was usually a pair of jeans, a T-shirt underneath, and the he had, like, a white or off-white thermal long-sleeved shirt. That’s pretty much what he wore, ‘cause he was pretty much always at home. If he went out or something, I don’t know, a blue jean jacket, somebody got Carlos Hernandez a blue jean jacket, or flannel-type, those thick, kind of coat shirts, something like that, too.”);

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Diana Gomez, Girlfriend of Carlos Hernandez, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Dec. 7, 2004) at 03:01:10 (“[Hernandez] liked the muscle shirts or the T-shirts that you cut off the sleeves, he was into that. Probably because of summertime. Shorts. And a lot of jeans, blue jeans. He was a T-shirt guy, he never wore a button-up shirt, I don’t think I’ve seen him.”);

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Jon Kelly, Attorney for Carlos Hernandez, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Dec. 9, 2004) at 06:46:12 (“[Hernandez would wear] jeans, T-shirt. Tennies. It was not unusual for someone like Carlos to wear that and that was kind of what he usually wore. Occasionally, if we went to court or something, he would have a shirt on. But almost always jeans and a T-shirt and tennies.”);

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Gloria Sanchez, Girlfriend of Carlos Hernandez, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Feb. 23, 2005) at 11:29:37 (“Ok, most of the time Carlos Hernandez would wear blue jeans, T-shirts. On occasion he would wear this blue shirt that he knew that I liked, but the majority of the time it was just blue jeans and T-shirts.”);

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Freddy Schilling, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Feb. 24, 2005) at 14:29:55 (“He mostly wore blue jeans, T-shirts. . . . Flannel jacket, yes. Seen him in flannel shirts, sure had.”);

Bruce Whitman’s Notes on Interview with Eddie Schilling, Nephew of Carlos Hernandez (Aug. 8–9, 2004) at 1 (“[Carlos Hernandez] wore jeans and and t-shirts in the summer and in the winter jeans, sweat shirts, long sleeve thermo shirts . . . over his t-shirt”);

James S. Liebman’s Notes on Interview with Janie Adrian, Neighbor of Carlos Hernandez (Dec. 4, 2004) at 1 (“CH [Carlos Hernandez] always wore white t-shirt, blue jeans.”);

James S. Liebman’s Notes of Interview with Cruz Perez & Lisa Garza, Friends of Carlos Hernandez (Nov. 3, 2005) at 2 (Lisa Garza: “He [Carlos Hernandez] always wore those shirts I hate that daddy always wore.” Cruz Perez, Lisa’s mother: “blue and red checked flannel shirts.”).

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Diana Gomez, Girlfriend of Carlos Hernandez, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Dec. 7, 2004) at 03:01:29 (“[Carlos Hernandez] didn’t know how to act, they’d [never] go somewhere to the mall or something. No, they wouldn’t . . . he’d never get out of that barrio. It was just there. It’s just like a triangle, blood bank, beach, house, blood bank, beach house.”).

Transcribed Videotape Interview with Diana Gomez, Girlfriend of Carlos Hernandez, in Corpus Christi, Texas (Dec. 7, 2004) at 03:00:54 (“[Hernandez] never did sport a full beard, I don’t remember that, but the mustache, yes, he would always.”);

see Peso Chavez & James S. Liebman’s Notes on Interviews with Jon Kelly, Lawyer for Carlos Hernandez (Aug. 16, 18, 20, 2004) at 4 (“Most of the time he had a thin Zachary Scott mustache; sometimes thicker; not long hair; no bear[d] . . . .”).

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